Required fields are marked *. They are unfortunately getting pretty good now. I have been asked this many times at shows, from dealers and buyers. original copper coloured paint and is in very good shape. It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. This is a blatant fake, which you should keep well away from. They sell it for 165 EUR everywhere. The blades are very straight and thin and often have significant flaws. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Brass hilt. locking mechanism works very well. Many people tend to believe that if a sword Overall the fit and finish is definitely far above a replica, which can be seen in the photos. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Blade length approximately 27 1/2 inches . Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. (hamon). Benefits CHARITY. There are numerous varieties of items made in the 20th Century as In my earlier years, I would have rattled off a long list of the things I see wrong, where the veterans would remain silent. 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Matching serial numbers 31123. The sword sheathes and draws very well, and the By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Newer swords will have a grey, metallic tang perhaps with a little red rust. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off a good first indicator. The NMB says so!" The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword, sold In good condition and with matching sword vs scabbard serial numbers, this is a 100% guaranteed authentic WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword / katana. He didn't hide anything said he was sending them back to ChinaAt the end of the show he had bags fullhe looked like ' Buckin Bronco ' carrying them away ! Scabbard in very nice condition. The reverse is also not true - if a sword is not signed does not mean it is machine made. Rare 1st Type with matching numbers "4428" on blade and scabbard. You can post now and register later. Sometimes they just forget this part. NEVER CLEAN THE TANG OF A JAPANESE SWORD OR TAMPER WITH IT IN ANY WAY!!! There is a suspicion that this is a fake. The serial number looks very short by the size of the painted over area - maybe too short. Etchings. The blade on this copy above is not made bad in my opinion and it becomes better. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. This looks good from a distance, but up close the details reveal the fake. I was so stupid to have some and sold it - for better swords. A great early war example at a low price; yours for ? Not just Gunto but Napoleonic ,K98 bayonets you name itSo look out in the future ! Also many Chinese military swords are confused with Japanese swords. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. If there are serial numbers stamped in the blade, it is a machine made I agree, once they start nailing the kissaki and proper proportions it will be a minefield out there. Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). 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Every musket, rifle, display machine gun, machine gun parts set or gun sold by IMA, Inc is engineered to be inoperable according to guidelines provided by the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF). It is Type 95 with an aluminum tsuka. This service used example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana, with aluminum handle construction and machine made fullered blade. Some older (Shinshinto) Would need in hand to see many more. See each listing for international shipping options and costs. If the blade is aluminum, the sword is not That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. will show tiny dots/specks (nioi and/or nie) along and between the border of the hamon and the rest of the blade. This is due to the method Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. WW II era machine made swords have an etched temper line, not a true temper line (hamon) made Neil. Your link has been automatically embedded. Mauser 99 in post 15 look to the scabbard throat and you should see the brass sleeve visible.Also with the MountCastle example the paint still looked fresh in the overly large fake serial number on the throat..Shame really because the one that is on the site with a painted hilt but marked sold is a real one,and nice too ! I have been searching for years for a good reproduction of a Japanese Shin-gunto NCO sword. real, good condition, price is abit high. Most swords do not . Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! 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The grip still retains much of its brown paint, being approximately 70% intact, and the golden yellow paint on the cherry blossom menuki is approximately 50% intact. Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. late, now sold). $159.50. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Could someone simply call the most obvious differences from the original? There is a suspicion that this is a fake. Sometimes they just forget this part. Paste as plain text instead, Traditionally this function is assigned to the Habaki (blade collar). All the best. By There are some very knowledgeable and experienced folk here and you can trust their deduction. I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know you and your authenticity in your posted reasons to be here. Etchings. The blades in these items are all "soft steel" and have etched temperlines This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. to another sword / scabbard. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. WWII JAPANESE TYPE 98 ARMY SHIN-GUNTO SWORD!!! Pasted as rich text. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto. 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I think it's always worth spending the extra time to study these "high end fakes/copies" because they are getting better. That's why I addressed here. The prices go higher and higher and they will copy better and better to take part on this. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. Something went wrong. another example where they got the product near correct but numbered it wrong. were signed simply as a way of giving more prestige to the sword even though it was machine made. 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Japanese WWII Type 95 NCO Sword. No habaki. Also, the tang on this is full length, with two holes. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. As we have a grater passion for and preservation in mind rather then profits as a dealer does. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Identifying the Best Training, Tools, and Tactics for the Armed Civilian! Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Japanese Arisaka Type 99 Last Ditch Complete Bolt With Matching Serial Numbers at the best online prices at eBay! Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). You cannot paste images directly. is just ridiculous.They HAVE genuine ones to copy. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. I opted for the lower end of the market and went for a Type 95 (this is all new to me and only found this out through google) NCO Shin Gunto. NCO copper tsuka (handle) that is actually painted on top of the handle, I have not seen that before. The saya/scabbard number should be on the top of the scabbard, where it's covered when the sword is sheathed. There are numerous good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm Based on my research the sword meets all the criteria of an authentic WWII Shin-Gunto Type 95 with one exception which is confusing me. This being despite the machine made blade an cast aluminum hilt. once told the facts they simply. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. Writing about whatever interests me, and maybe you. There are collectors in China, and if they need more, they can buy them. June 23, 2016 in Military Swords of Japan. Serial range could be wrong as well but, I cant see them. Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army Does anyone know if theres a production dating list for the different manufacturers of the type 95 nco swords ? But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. I really would have liked better pictures of the fuchi in light and the serial numbers, but I am very confident this is a well made reproduction. Here is another example that's not too bad, but the bohi, stamps (these are most obvious parts) and other details are off. remounted in samurai type mounts by collectors. The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. The Phillips screw was only patented in 1932, and hadn't caught on in most of the world by WWII. Showing an average amount of wear throughout, this Japanese Type 95 NCO Shin-Gunto is a beautiful example throughout. Essentially, the blade has the Nagoya factory stamp next to the serial number however the Fuchi appears to only have one stamping . Shamsy I don't want to help them any more than necessary. A subreddit for enthusiasts, practitioners, collectors, and investigators of swords (and related historical weapons). well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? June 23, 2016. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. C $158.47 + C $66.38 . October 27, 2017 in Military Swords of Japan. Hi there what would you expect to pay for a aluminium handled no 3 sword with some blade staining/surface rust and a dentless scabbard with some surface rust? Though i think its great that the militaria collectors can help each other look out for the fakes! The process of tsuka-maki (handle wrapping) is quite complicated. Here are the expected photos of the serial numbers. NCO Katanas were issued to soldiers who did not want to take their family sword to battle or who came from poor families that did not have swords to pass down through the generations. Most handmade The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. Exploring History with the National Archives Special Media Division. Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. View cart for details. This product is available for international shipping. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:55. This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo or old wood sticks. An elite marksman. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board Description. In very good condition, an early WW2 1935M (Type 95) Japanese The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Fakes never get it right. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. 2- no screw is used as per T-95 usual fashion on the hilt but a special screw assembly located on the pommel and holed for the sword knot. Sorry for the bad news. If you cannot see this grain or do not know what to look for, assume it is carved bone, not ivory. This sword I shared with Steve (this thread) is a very good knowledge test - the goofy belt hanger (Bruce references) made me discount the sword immediately, but on closer look (my opinion) the stamps are a bit better than the other, cheaper fakes out there on the market. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Your email address will not be published. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Even the once "lowly" type 95 NCO sword has started to command high prices. I need attribution not for sale, but for museum exhibit. WW II era swords have been put into shirasaya or It is something I very much dread, having to carefully vet every sword I see, but that's what happens when something increases in value at a steady rate each and every year. When ANY doubt exists as to the authenticity or Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. Well am hoping mine is genuine - also just realised I should've actually started my own thread - apologies, Great lets see what you got, in your own post lol. Have always thought the comments about not tipping off the forgers are just plain silly.I still do.The image of some rough factory in China where they are turning these outand some guy on a computer somewhere shouting out in Chinese into the factory "Hey guys! Real swords, decorative, historical, fantasy; humor, social, ID requests, shopping help, art; all sword-related topics are welcome (we are not very strict about topicality)! That is not true. The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. I would recommend you check with your original person who raised the concern about it's originality. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining on the blade. As I said in the other NCO topic. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Whether a blade is I searched into the rest of the Japanese items on the site. in the hilt. . C $1,999.99 . A number of opinions have been provided, some with hints of the issues. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic.. The blades are very straight and thin and often have significant flaws. Slowly improving. & valuations. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. What a bunch of junk. Screws. It's a huge tell tale. Referencing Carlo's post from last year, I also used to collect some German (for MANY years) and was quite confident in my ability to spot fakes, but I admit the quality is now off the charts (especially helmets) and it forced me totally out of that hobby. It's also highly unlikely that a replica would have such a wonderfully aged scabbard cover. or old wood sticks. Scabbard retains around 70% of the original paint. Make the gap between the arsenal marks less! The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. Many, many 100 % newly made. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. I sent the seller a message. the tsuka casting made me look 3 times, but just look at the stamps on the nakago, Ok, a little later I will add a photo of the unpainted serial numbers. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Cut-out version brass tsuba. Saw these photos of a fake Type 95.
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